World SEO Competition

by Gary on August 12, 2007 · 8 comments

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Darryl of kindly invited Phoenixrealm to participate in a World SEO Competition. Unfortunately due to an influx of new projects this year some of which required long term commitments, neither I or my colleagues at doublespark-seo will be able to participate.

It is a shame as this would seem to be an excellent way to increase both profile  and credibilty. We will watch the competition closely, and who knows maybe next year we will be in a better situation to be able to participate.

Maybe the status of World SEO Competition winner will interest some of the Phoenixrealm readers?

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SEO Carly August 13, 2007 at 6:53 am

Interesting.. I’m tempted to enter, as i havn’t entered a comp since Nigritude Ultramarine back in 2004. I done ok considering the lack of effort.

These comps can take alot of time and dedication, but the rewards can be good if you win. Also they arn’t a “true” indication of a good SEO, because people call on resources they never would for a client or enter representing a country and appeal to strangers from that country to help them out etc.

Also alot have huge budgets or company sponsorships that throw at it.

To find the best SEO, i believe a truer way is to give everyone the same resources and the best SEO is the one who utilizes these resources to their full potential and comes out on top.

I’ll have a think about this πŸ™‚

Darryl August 13, 2007 at 7:07 pm

Hi Again, Thanks for the mention – will add to our referrer list. In regards to SEO Carly’s comment – unfortunately there is not a great deal we can do to stop participants calling in corporate favours or such, but each entrant represents only their company or themselves, the country flags on the website are just to let people know where our participants are from!

Certain prizes within the competition are judged on merit rather than sheer back links etc. (for example the concept prize) and we hope for a few good judges – so don’t be worried about not competing for those reasons.

We are always ready to listen to ways to level the playing field as well – so if you have any ideas let us know!

Thanks again πŸ˜€


SEO Carly August 14, 2007 at 11:37 am

Thanks for dropping by Darryl.

Don’t get me wrong, SEO Comps are an excellent way for SEO’s to show case their skills and gain instant recognition in the industry.. And i’m giving some serious consideration to entering.

As for the non-level playing field and pulling corporate favours etc that’s something that occurs in every contest i’ve whitnessed over the years and there isn’t much of a solution besides what you are doing and offering alternate prizes on other attributes besides sheer rankings.

With the flags, i’ve often seen people enter representing a country even without flags. Say SEO Phillipines for example, and the call goes out to other Phillipines webmasters to put the country on the map and next thing they have got a few thousand backlinks from strangers. Or even a site, for example if entered a call goes out on the forums and suddenly your really competing against a collective group of 500 SEO’s.

Very hard for a SEO Freelancer or small company to compete against.

However.. i am beating the likes of,,,,,,,,, and many others for the term “SEO” on with an almost Zero budget so there may be some hope yet if i enter πŸ˜‰

Gary August 14, 2007 at 11:48 am

Carly, let me know if you do enter, Phoenixrealm and it’s network would help you where we could.

Rather than ranking high for “SEO” would you be better traffic/conversion wise ranking high for “SEO Freelancer”, “Australian SEO” etc?

SEO Carly August 15, 2007 at 1:29 am

Wow, thanks for the offer of assistance Gary i didn’t expect that but it’s much appreciated. I’m really considering entering, i’m just looking at what i’ve got planned in the upcoming months to see how much i can dedicate towards the comp.

With the keywords, i was page one for “SEO Company” for a while but was generally dissapointed with the traffic so de-optimized a little in favour of just “SEO”. I’m still page one on and around #15 on

Keyword research shows “SEO” gets around 5 times the search volume then “SEO Company”, where as terms like “SEO Freelancer” or “Australian SEO” is very minor compared to the “SEO Company” term.

So, i thought i’d have a shot at the big one and see how things go and if it doesn’t work out go back to “SEO Company” in conjunction with more targeted terms like the two you mentioned and possibly “SEO Services” which gets a good amount of queries.

Gary August 16, 2007 at 11:38 am

Just one thought. I appreciate that “SEO” has 5 times the search volume of “SEO Company”. But how many of those would actualy be looking to purchase your services, and ultimately convert to clients?

I only target phrases that are clearly used by people that are looking to buy my services. Easier to achieve, much higher conversion ratio meaning more clients thats my theory anyway πŸ™‚

SEO Carly August 17, 2007 at 6:06 am

I’m still page one for “SEO Company” on and page two on the .com, however the traffic was very poor when i was page one on .com so i guess i’m just experimenting to see what works.

I still rank good for longer tail SEO keyphrases, so i’m not putting all my eggs in the one basket.

If just “SEO” doesn’t work out, it’s not that far removed from the “SEO Company” phrase so it will be easy to de-tune and revert back.

Also if i play my cards right, i may be able to hold respectable spots for both simultainously. Call it a final stab at something before i take the more drastic measures we discussed via email. πŸ™‚

Gary August 17, 2007 at 8:26 am

It sounds like you have a well thought out plan in place Carly, that is half the battle. Look forward to hearing how you get on.